US refuses to give internet to the world

**radio667** · 08-02-2012, 10:15 AM

from techeye.net .............. The US, which famously does not know that Tim Berners-Lee invented the world wide web , is refusing to hand over control of the internet to the UN.

The UN wants to bring in a global treaty to bring the internet under UN control and there have been suggestions that it would tax big international telcos to pay to make sure that the world is better connected.

However, according to AP, * the US will submit its own formal proposal on Friday for the December conference held by the International Telecommunications Union, a UN agency which sets global telecom rules.

Terry Kramer, who has been named the special envoy for the talks, opposed proposals by Russia, China and others to expand the authority of the ITU to cover the internet.

He claims that it will bring in regulation and he said that the internet has grown because it has not been micro-managed or owned by any government or multinational organisation.

The US is worried that the December conference, to be held in Dubai, could seek changes threatening the openness of the internet and its so-called "multi-stakeholder" model.

The fear is that it would give governments greater authority to filter or censor information, which is certainly what Russia and China wants, but is also becoming part of policy of Western countries such as the UK, Australia and New Zealand.

What is worrying the big US technology companies is that it has been suggested the committee would call for taxes on internet traffic to pay for a worldwide improvement in infrastructure. This would hit US firms, who spend a lot of time trying to avoid paying tax.

The conference is aimed at updating a 1998 global telecom treaty.

ITU secretary general Hamadoun Toure has indicated he would be seeking a "consensus" approach rather than bringing each proposal up for a vote.

Kramer hopes that he can lean on the Europeans to back the US plan to keep control of the internet. Apparently we love the fact that the US controls the internet and have no interest in improving the worldwide web by taxing rich US companies either.

***Creeper*** · 08-02-2012, 09:23 PM

"Hey, cool thing you built there. We'll be taking it now."

Dr.Flay · 08-03-2012, 03:52 AM

They can't give what they don't have.

Only someone who doesn't know the difference between the net and the web, would think anyone could own it and withhold it.

Strictly speaking, we are all "the internet" (or part of it) as soon as we connect to each-other, by whatever means we choose.
It is just a massive "WAN", so they would have to try and own us too.
The internet is not a physical thing, it is a concept.

The internet providers just give us the easiest access, but are not the only way, so even if the Governments of the world controlled the telephone companies, it would just split into the regular controlled net for newbies, and the L337 microwave VPN.

To be honest I think it is already going that way.
Lots of ISPs currently redirect or block so-called "bad" IP addresses, without the customer being informed.
You can test your ISP's DNS and choose a better/faster one with the DNS Benchmark utility.
http://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

08-02-2012, 10:15 AM	#1
radio667 I R Happy Goat Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 10,752 Downloads: 2	US refuses to give internet to the world from techeye.net .............. The US, which famously does not know that Tim Berners-Lee invented the world wide web , is refusing to hand over control of the internet to the UN. The UN wants to bring in a global treaty to bring the internet under UN control and there have been suggestions that it would tax big international telcos to pay to make sure that the world is better connected. However, according to AP, * the US will submit its own formal proposal on Friday for the December conference held by the International Telecommunications Union, a UN agency which sets global telecom rules. Terry Kramer, who has been named the special envoy for the talks, opposed proposals by Russia, China and others to expand the authority of the ITU to cover the internet. He claims that it will bring in regulation and he said that the internet has grown because it has not been micro-managed or owned by any government or multinational organisation. The US is worried that the December conference, to be held in Dubai, could seek changes threatening the openness of the internet and its so-called "multi-stakeholder" model. The fear is that it would give governments greater authority to filter or censor information, which is certainly what Russia and China wants, but is also becoming part of policy of Western countries such as the UK, Australia and New Zealand. What is worrying the big US technology companies is that it has been suggested the committee would call for taxes on internet traffic to pay for a worldwide improvement in infrastructure. This would hit US firms, who spend a lot of time trying to avoid paying tax. The conference is aimed at updating a 1998 global telecom treaty. ITU secretary general Hamadoun Toure has indicated he would be seeking a "consensus" approach rather than bringing each proposal up for a vote. Kramer hopes that he can lean on the Europeans to back the US plan to keep control of the internet. Apparently we love the fact that the US controls the internet and have no interest in improving the worldwide web by taxing rich US companies either. __________________ , "There is also a river called Helikon [in Pieria]. (...) But, they go on to say, the women who killed Orpheus wished to wash off in it the blood-stains, and thereat the River sank underground, so as not to lend its waters to cleanse manslaughter." —Pausanias, Description of Greece 9. 30. 8

08-02-2012, 09:23 PM	#2
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08-03-2012, 03:52 AM	#3
Dr.Flay C= AMIGA freak Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Kernow Posts: 18 Downloads: 21	They can't give what they don't have. Only someone who doesn't know the difference between the net and the web, would think anyone could own it and withhold it. Strictly speaking, we are all "the internet" (or part of it) as soon as we connect to each-other, by whatever means we choose. It is just a massive "WAN", so they would have to try and own us too. The internet is not a physical thing, it is a concept. The internet providers just give us the easiest access, but are not the only way, so even if the Governments of the world controlled the telephone companies, it would just split into the regular controlled net for newbies, and the L337 microwave VPN. To be honest I think it is already going that way. Lots of ISPs currently redirect or block so-called "bad" IP addresses, without the customer being informed. You can test your ISP's DNS and choose a better/faster one with the DNS Benchmark utility. http://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm