Movie recommendation

[_F7_]

Four Rooms starring Tim Roth.

See it and thank me later. :p

[Turkish]

Reservoir Dogs with Tim Roth if you haven't seen it ... poor you. Also with that note anything written, directed or recommended by Quentin Tarantino aka "Iron Monkey, Curdled"

Memento - Starring Guy Pearce (Excellent movie one of the best)
It also hasCarrie-Anne Moss and Joe Pantoliano from
The Matrix.

Following - Starring "No one you probably know" A film produced
by the same man that did momento Christopher Nolan.

Love And Basketball - Starring Sanna Lathan and Omar Epps.
The first time I watched this movie I thought to myself... "Not a stupid basketball movie" by the end of the movie I was trying to hold back tears from loving the characters so damn much. Excellent ending by the way.

Last but not least

Any Kevin Smith movie or movie with Jason Lee in it :P

[freshie]

Originally posted by Turkish
Reservoir Dogs with Tim Roth if you haven't seen it ... poor you. Also with that note anything written, directed or recommended by Quentin Tarantino aka "Iron Monkey, Curdled"

Memento - Starring Guy Pearce (Excellent movie one of the best)
It also hasCarrie-Anne Moss and Joe Pantoliano from
The Matrix.

Following - Starring "No one you probably know" A film produced
by the same man that did momento Christopher Nolan.

Love And Basketball - Starring Sanna Lathan and Omar Epps.
The first time I watched this movie I thought to myself... "Not a stupid basketball movie" by the end of the movie I was trying to hold back tears from loving the characters so damn much. Excellent ending by the way.

Last but not least

Any Kevin Smith movie or movie with Jason Lee in it :P

Memento, Kevin Smith, and Resevoir Dogs... all excellent choices.

Let me add me .02 euros worth....

JFK

I don't actually delude myself by believing some of the more outrageous content of the movie, or the way it presented. But damn is this one entertaining movies. One of my pet movie genres is the 70's paranoia movie.. think 3 Days of the Condor, All the Presidents Men, Marathon Man. In this vein JFK is done as well as any of them. And the job done by all the cameos are great. Kevin Bacon, Tommy Lee Jones, Joe Pesci all do a great job.

Brazil

In fact throw in any movie made by Terry Gilliam in the 1980's such as Time Bandits or the Adventures of Baron Von Munchausen. Brazil is probably the darkest of the bunch, but at the same time, the most brilliant. The sheer visual style for it was ground-breaking at the time, and the tragedy, yet dark-humor in it, was excellent.

I also loved Ralph Richardson as the Supreme Being in Time Bandits, calming discussing the roots of western religion, with the small child taking the agnostic approach. Probably the twisted thing about this movie, as it was marketed as children movies at the time. Woe was the freshmaker as a little child with the ending of the movie. I was disturbed for weeks. I place a great deal of blame of my current demeanor on this movie.

Stanley Kubrick

Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange. All brilliant.

The Seventh Seal

Film students must go to bed at night and jerk off to this movie. Still if you aren't emotionally destroyed by the utter bleakness in this movie, you are inhuman.

Mulholland Drive

Unlike his previous rambling story in Lost Highway, this movie was tight and mean. You have to think about it for awhile, but it all comes together.

[Infide]

Originally posted by freshie


Memento, Kevin Smith, and Resevoir Dogs... all excellent choices.

Let me add me .02 euros worth....

JFK

I don't actually delude myself by believing some of the more outrageous content of the movie, or the way it presented. But damn is this one entertaining movies. One of my pet movie genres is the 70's paranoia movie.. think 3 Days of the Condor, All the Presidents Men, Marathon Man. In this vein JFK is done as well as any of them. And the job done by all the cameos are great. Kevin Bacon, Tommy Lee Jones, Joe Pesci all do a great job.

Brazil

In fact throw in any movie made by Terry Gilliam in the 1980's such as Time Bandits or the Adventures of Baron Von Munchausen. Brazil is probably the darkest of the bunch, but at the same time, the most brilliant. The sheer visual style for it was ground-breaking at the time, and the tragedy, yet dark-humor in it, was excellent.

Stanley Kubrick

Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange. All brilliant.

The Seventh Seal

Film students must go to bed at night and jerk off to this movie. Still if you aren't emotionally destroyed by the utter bleakness in this movie, you are inhuman.

Mulholland Drive

Unlike his previous rambling story in Lost Highway, this movie was tight and mean. You have to think about it for awhile, but it all comes together.

Let's see what MrCranky says about this!!
Mulhooland Drive (http://www.unrealplayground.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=62327)

or this one!

Full Metal Jacket (http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/fullmetaljacket.html)

and of course...

Brazil (http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/brazil.html)

[Kindness]

Mr. Cranky's rating of Mulholland Drive (http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/mulhollanddrive.html).

[Idle Idol]

Originally posted by freshie
Mulholland Drive

Unlike his previous rambling story in Lost Highway, this movie was tight and mean. You have to think about it for awhile, but it all comes together.

still thinking...been a few weeks now...

--Idle, so confused

[freshie]

Originally posted by Idle Idol


still thinking...been a few weeks now...

--Idle, so confused

The basic jist. Dunno If I agree with everything this guy says.

explanation (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=122735)

And here is a

a severe case of over-analysis (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=123144)

Be sure to check out the freshmaker's commentary in that thread. It's the 18th post from the top.

[ShirleyFT]

I've watched David Lynch films from the start with Eraserhead. He hit his peak (no pun intended) with "Wild At Heart".

Mullholland Dr. and Lost Highway are nice experiments and have some great elements to them, but as a whole they break the contract with the viewer. You need to tell the viewer up front your going to do a dream sequence not in the center of the film. As a whole these films are failures. Fun to watch, but... Seriously, watch all Lynch's stuff - Eraserhead, Elephant man, Dune, Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart and all of the Twin peaks episodes if you haven't already. Television has never seen anything like Peaks.

A much overlooked gem was a Crispin Glover movie called "Rubin and Ed". Glover and Howard Hesseman are a lot of fun in this one. Check it out.

Another great film is Videodrome. David Cronenberg is great. This one is with James Woods . Also, check out "Dead Ringers" by Cronenberg. Jeremy Irons is weirder than ever.

More to come.

[freshie]

Originally posted by ShirleyFT
I've watched David Lynch films from the start with Mullholland Dr. and Lost Highway are nice experiments and have some great elements to them, but as a whole they break the contract with the viewer. You need to tell the viewer up front your going to do a dream sequence not in the center of the film.

Dunno If I'd necesarilly agree with that.

A bad example of dream sequence was the movie Wisdom (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0092225)

A good example of the dream sequence is Jacob's Ladder (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0099871)

[ShirleyFT]

Originally posted by freshie


Dunno If I'd necesarilly agree with that.

A bad example of dream sequence was the movie Wisdom (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0092225)

A good example of the dream sequence is Jacob's Ladder (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0099871)

I think you spliced my sentences in your previous quote.

Jacob's Lader was also fun, but it was also a bad example.

Let me explain. Take a movie like "The Sixth Sense". You present the facts for eveybody to see in the first 5 - 10 minutes, then you go on with your elaborate deception for the rest of the film. It's like a good mystery. All the facts are there, but diversion and slight of hand fool the viewer to believe the contrary. At the end viewer is pleasantly surprised because when he learns the truth he knows all the facts were right there before him. Lynch fails to do this in Highway and Mulholland Dr. as does Adrian Lyne fail with Jacob's Ladder. Information is withheld and the viewer is cheated.

[j.lu]

Originally posted by ShirleyFT


Information is withheld and the viewer is cheated.

personally i think that's just an opinion of what someone finds enjoyable in a movie.

i found it fun and exciting to sit back and think about mulholland drive and put it together piece by piece afterwards. then to view it again and understand the subtleties involved.

by forcing a director to "explain" the movie assumes a lazy, or dare i say, "undereducated" audience, which is b-o boring and even insulting at times.

loins

[Turkish]

OH I forgot a movie that I was suppose to add to my list.

Donnie Darko

All I have to say is.... ewwww creepy.

And some of the one-liners in there are excellent.

[tr@xtandn]

Shirley, Rubin and Ed is an awesome movie. Crispin Glover's character is one weird, weird dude.

[Ghost_Recon]

Shawshank Redemption.

I like movies starring Morgan Freeman usually.

Soon to come.

Dead Poet's Society.

[[pepe]]

I just saw mulholand drive again with some friends and It wasn't any easier to figure it out completely. The lesbian scene still is great(only cause of laura's great body).

I don't think it's fair to compare it to 6th sense kind of movie, it's definitely not clean cut kind of film.

if you don't understand it, its cause you are not supposed to. It does not mean the movie is stupid or that you're stupid. See it for what it is. Not what you wanted it to be.

[Freakish]

mm...tie-dye..

[Infide]

Originally posted by j.lu


personally i think that's just an opinion of what someone finds enjoyable in a movie.

i found it fun and exciting to sit back and think about mulholland drive and put it together piece by piece afterwards. then to view it again and understand the subtleties involved.

by forcing a director to "explain" the movie assumes a lazy, or dare i say, "undereducated" audience, which is b-o boring and even insulting at times.

loins

I've got two words for Mullholland drive.
Hot
naked
lesbian
sex

[HisDivineShadow]

You know what was a good movie (recent)...Road To Perdition. I was skeptical going in but was really pleased with the story and the acting, even the sets & cinematography. Hanks was believable. I recommend it.

[Young_Wolf]

If I remember correctly, Lynch did provide a huge clue that the movie would be a dream near the beginning when there was a shot of a pillow beginning to cover the camera lens as if someone was putting their head down to sleep.

In any case, I was a big Lynch fan from the Twin Peaks days and yet I found Mullholland Dr. very annoying. It was grating to my nerves to watch. I do enjoy a movie with symbolism and that which is thought provoking, but (as someone else mentioned) a movie like 6th Sense is so much better to me. It's like Lynch is trying to be creative and weird simply for the sake of it. He doesn't give the viewer any reason to buy in to the characters since they are so removed from our experiences. I want to feel connected to the main character (or at least to 'a' character).

I do admit that Lynch did a great job creating a mood in the movie. I felt a little creepy the whole next day.

Take care...

[LaM]Young_Wolf

[BOOBS]

Originally posted by ShirleyFT


I think you spliced my sentences in your previous quote.

Jacob's Lader was also fun, but it was also a bad example.

Let me explain. Take a movie like "The Sixth Sense". You present the facts for eveybody to see in the first 5 - 10 minutes, then you go on with your elaborate deception for the rest of the film. It's like a good mystery. All the facts are there, but diversion and slight of hand fool the viewer to believe the contrary. At the end viewer is pleasantly surprised because when he learns the truth he knows all the facts were right there before him. Lynch fails to do this in Highway and Mulholland Dr. as does Adrian Lyne fail with Jacob's Ladder. Information is withheld and the viewer is cheated.

OK to take this conversation from the high road to the street where I live. Been going to movies for years and there is only 4 or 5 original movies and they keep getting made over and over again with just different actors. As far as the 6th sense goes maybe I am jaded but my brother in law and I saw it when it opened and within 5 minutes into the movie we both looked at each other and said.."Willis is most likely dead" to this day I do not understand how anyone watched that movie and said, Oh my god, he was dead.... I mean be serious.

That is why at this point in my life there is only 3 things that make a movie good...

It is Funny
**** gets blown up
There is gratuitous nudity. I do not need to spend $10 to have to think(even though with most people who make movies this is not an option) IF I want to think I will read a book. Just my opinion....

[freshie]

Originally posted by BOOBS

**** gets blown up


"Drop The Burger, It's a Bomb"

That's a quote from one of my favourite E-Trade commercials. Back in the pre-bubble era, they ran this commercial.

"Blow'd Up!.. This movie is gonna Blow."

I'm all for a good action flick. But bad gratuitous noisy action flicks with lame plots (read anything with the names of Bruckheimer and Bay on them), are just painful. Good action Flick... Die Hard. Bad action flick.... pick on randomly out of a hat, and it's probably bad.

Freshie <== Uses, LapIntosh to bring down an alien culture. Glad all alien motherships support 23 Pin Serial Ports.

And like in Star Wars, wtf is up with Imperial Computer security?? Any R2 unit can come around and plug into the universal R2 interface and control trash compactors, blast doors, and pretty much any ship function other than the tractor beam, which is controlled by a lever in the middle of nowhere.

[BOOBS]

Originally posted by freshie


"Drop The Burger, It's a Bomb"

That's a quote from one of my favourite E-Trade commercials. Back in the pre-bubble era, they ran this commercial.

"Blow'd Up!.. This movie is gonna Blow."

I'm all for a good action flick. But bad gratuitous noisy action flicks with lame plots (read anything with the names of Bruckheimer and Bay on them), are just painful. Good action Flick... Die Hard. Bad action flick.... pick on randomly out of a hat, and it's probably bad.

Freshie <== Uses, LapIntosh to bring down an alien culture. Glad all alien motherships support 23 Pin Serial Ports.

And like in Star Wars, wtf is up with Imperial Computer security?? Any R2 unit can come around and plug into the universal R2 interface and control trash compactors, blast doors, and pretty much any ship function other than the tractor beam, which is controlled by a lever in the middle of nowhere.

Never mentioned "action flix"per say, just like **** getting blown up. In order of preference it is always
Nudity
Comedy
Blow up ****. My idea of a pefect movie would be some real good lookin naked person telling a real funny joke right before they blew up....
As far as a GOOD action flix well most of the time there really are not any. If the Blown up **** is good or the stunts then they need someone who does not take away from it witrh good acting. Good example is XXX, Good example is every movie that dude is in. Not only can he not act, he has trouble talking.

[ShirleyFT]

Originally posted by j.lu


personally i think that's just an opinion of what someone finds enjoyable in a movie.

i found it fun and exciting to sit back and think about mulholland drive and put it together piece by piece afterwards. then to view it again and understand the subtleties involved.

by forcing a director to "explain" the movie assumes a lazy, or dare i say, "undereducated" audience, which is b-o boring and even insulting at times.

loins

"Un Chein Andalou" by Luis Bunuel and Salvadore Dali was probably one of the most experimental films made. However, it was consistent and did not break the contract with the viewer. You knew it was something different from the start. Lynch has borrowed ideas from this short film many times.

Lynch also reminds you you are watching a film. This method was first used by French New wave filmakers Truffaut and Godard. Jump edits, overly long edits and the like brought attention to the film itself as the object, the art.

Even where Lynch doesn't throw these bold experiments in your face every second there is still a constant thread built like that which goes back to Italian neo-realist Vitorio De Sica. Lynch alternates between subtle symbolism tied into the narrative and the "in your face" experimentalism that bursts forward in fits of rage on the screen.

Lynch does all these things from the Avante-Garde to the tightly scripted Hollywood film and he has had much success with his work. Like I've said before, I've been watching his films, and reading his interviews since I studied film back in the 70's. But I'm still not happy with Mulholland Drive.

Undereducated audience? Just because somebody uses the tools of experimental film doesn't mean whatever they put up on the screen is an automatic success. Don't be fooled by the use of abstraction in itself, but look at the content within.

[Slain]

watched a movie called "Monkey Bone" the other night. Anyone see this? It was suprisingly funny and odd.

[ShirleyFT]

Originally posted by Slain
watched a movie called "Monkey Bone" the other night. Anyone see this? It was suprisingly funny and odd.

Yep, lots of fun. Goofy stuff.

[Fa Kov]

Tim Burton's usually a good bet. Though his recent stuff is starting to smell somewhat rank. I.E. Planet of The Apes. Although, Tim Roth was farking genius in that movie. Which brings us back to F7's first post. And for any Roth fans out there, stay as far away from Gridlocked as possible. Him and Tupac as a a junkie back up band for a spoken word Thandie Newton? Who greenlights these things?

[Young_Wolf]

I agree Shirley, the people that laud Lynch so much for Mullholland Dr. and take the attitude that anyone who doesn't like it must be intellectually inept are like the people walking around Modern Art musuems staring at red dots pretending to be sophisticated.

Lynch tends to be abstract for its own sake and offers very little content.

Take care...

[LaM]Young_Wolf

[Slain]

Blue Velvet. Movie gives me the creeps. It's disturbing but great.

[blito3]

how about The Cube. that one was great.

[ShirleyFT]

Originally posted by Slain
Blue Velvet. Movie gives me the creeps. It's disturbing but great.

"Yep. That's an ear alright".

Dennis Hopper and Dean Stockwell were great in that movie. Love Stockwell's lip sync for Orbison's "In Dreams". Classic. Although, the fat painted whores were already done by Lena Wertmuller and John Waters (Pink Flamingos).

Now John Waters has made some seriously goofed out weirdness. Whoa.

[SunnyDay]

Originally posted by _F7_
Four Rooms starring Tim Roth.

See it and thank me later. :p

Thats funny I watched it Monday night and have been recommending it to everyone I see. One of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time.