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Kingster
12-01-2007, 12:16 PM
Is now kind of running. We're slowly getting it together...
Please be patient!
There are some significant changes, and a fair amount of things could well be broken.
A good example of this are links to threads that you all have embedded into posts. Most of these will be jacked. I will try to fix the ones that are links to threads, but links to downloads most likely will not be. :sour:
Update: Links to threads in posts and signatures are fixed.
Another thing that I broke (and well!) was all of your avatars. You'll need to re-up those.
I'll be sure to let you know more as we progress.
{RA}SKYFURNACE
12-02-2007, 01:25 AM
looks good kingster. :) thank you for all your hard work.
Mathlete
12-02-2007, 11:36 AM
noticed the avatars, but that's jusrt an invite to change them :D
good work, keep it UP!
Ultimate_Weasel
12-02-2007, 11:39 AM
I expressed some of my doubts this afternoon, but the site grew on me. Keep up the good work!
(Damn, gotta make a new HOM avatar:scratch:)
Swanky
12-02-2007, 11:53 AM
I don't really like the new design... I stated the reasons in the other Thread, but I still ask myself why you'd change something that was working well?
SchrödingersCat
12-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Ich mag!:claps:
{RA}SKYFURNACE
12-02-2007, 01:35 PM
I don't really like the new design... I stated the reasons in the other Thread, but I still ask myself why you'd change something that was working well?
there have been thoughts and plans on updating and changing up the site for like the last 3 years. There are various reasons for it.
-=JUDGE=-
12-02-2007, 04:24 PM
Not bad, not bad.
The gray color is not my favorite. and the UP header is not so cool, but I'm happy to see a new site after so long! Good work.
HERO Maxwell
12-02-2007, 06:36 PM
The color scheme bugs me, but other than that I'm liking it.
Cobra
12-02-2007, 07:58 PM
It think that it is very good looking. I like it
effdee2
12-03-2007, 07:54 AM
The GUI doesn't matter as much to me as ease of navigation. Two parts of your site should be easy to find and use, that's maps and forums.
Where is the map download area? I'm unable to find that.
effdee2
12-03-2007, 08:03 AM
What I liked were the UT, 2K4 CTF, DM etc links on the left for maps. Simple and easy to use. UP was my favorite site by far until this change. Is UP going to make the map download area available again?
Muffy
12-03-2007, 08:12 AM
good job bro!
share_the_pain
12-03-2007, 08:37 AM
The GUI doesn't matter as much to me as ease of navigation. Two parts of your site should be easy to find and use, that's maps and forums.
Where is the map download area? I'm unable to find that.
What I liked were the UT, 2K4 CTF, DM etc links on the left for maps. Simple and easy to use. UP was my favorite site by far until this change. Is UP going to make the map download area available again?
Just in case you haven't bothered reading around, yes the downloads are coming back. Kingster is neck-deep in work and he is trying ever so hard to get it done. He can't possibly make the site appeal to everyone's bests interests, but he sure is trying. The maps section is broken for now, yes, but it is on his to-do list along with many other things. Just be patient.
effdee2
12-03-2007, 08:48 AM
Thanks. I've been reading around and knew about the broken links but wasn't sure if the maps area was broken also and would be back.
UP is my favorite site by far along with unrealadmin.org.
Kingster
12-03-2007, 09:46 AM
The GUI doesn't matter as much to me as ease of navigation. Two parts of your site should be easy to find and use, that's maps and forums.
Where is the map download area? I'm unable to find that.
What I liked were the UT, 2K4 CTF, DM etc links on the left for maps. Simple and easy to use. UP was my favorite site by far until this change. Is UP going to make the map download area available again?
It'll be back, and yes, I plan to have links straight into the respective downloads areas, as well as the ability to host more than just maps, things like texture packs, skins, map packs (something I've alsways wanted to do!), etc.
Please, be patient. I'm trying as hard as I can, and alas, real life intervenes occasionally.
jstickboy13
12-03-2007, 09:58 AM
yes, i agree. this was the only site i got my maps from because it was so easy to use, all the maps were on the left. simple. the new site looks really good but the links to maps are missing. sounds like you're putting the links back in and that will take care of the only complaint i have. also, if you're adding skins and mutators then this site will be better than ever! can't wait!!
Swanky
12-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Since its Beta it doesn't have the map links for now. But the Skins thingy is in. Just Browse user CP -> Edit Options -> Scroll to Bottom -> change -> save.
@STP-Woha, what the crap....theres pictures in your sig.....
Kingster
12-03-2007, 09:34 PM
I guess I'd really broke some stuff this afternoon and hadn't realized it... Until I got home and had time to check for new posts. When there weren't any, I realized I had broken something.
Anyhow, it should be back to working again.
Hey. Lay off. It's a
beta
effdee2
12-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Thanks Kingster, UP was the first site I became a member of in years because I was impressed with it. (That says something about UP because I don't like having to join or become a member of web sites)
The second site I don't need to mention because it would probably be advertising but it's for UT admins.
Kingster
12-03-2007, 09:50 PM
Thanks Kingster, UP was the first site I became a member of in years because I was impressed with it. (That says something about UP because I don't like having to join or become a member of web sites)
The second site I don't need to mention because it would probably be advertising but it's for UT admins.
If it's UnrealAdmin, it's all good. They do great work. I can only hope to have this site achieve UA status.
Demaun
12-03-2007, 10:20 PM
things like texture packs, skins, map packs
:rockon::rockon::rockon:!
Manticore
12-04-2007, 12:15 AM
noticed the avatars, but that's jusrt an invite to change them :D
good work, keep it UP!
Just uploaded my new (as in old avatar).:evil:
Nitestalker
12-04-2007, 02:59 AM
The color scheme bugs me, but other than that I'm liking it.
I thought we buried you?
Change is good! The only thing I don't love is the lightness of the page, after seeing it dark for so long, I would perfer a shade of grey, or myabe its my monitor:scratch:
JohnnySix
12-04-2007, 11:58 AM
I've downed it a few notches, so it's not fullbright. :)
I'm now redoing every single button's matte bg, as they now don't match. ;)
radio667
12-04-2007, 12:28 PM
God Save the King :rockon: !!
share_the_pain
12-04-2007, 04:27 PM
I've downed it a few notches, so it's not fullbright. :)
I'm now redoing every single button's matte bg, as they now don't match. ;)
Much nicer now. I don't have to squint and the red buttons give it the much needed colour.
Keep UP the nice work. :claps:
{RA}SKYFURNACE
12-04-2007, 07:30 PM
I've downed it a few notches, so it's not fullbright. :)
I'm now redoing every single button's matte bg, as they now don't match. ;)
Thank you. :) its much easier on the eyes, if you could deepen the red & gray header bars a bit that would be great. :)
is there a "Mapper" icon in the works?
JohnnySix
12-04-2007, 08:14 PM
Yup... http://www.unrealplayground.com/forums/upskin3/images/buttons/mymaps.gif
Oh yeah, for anyone stuck on the old black skin - there's been a lot of work done on the new skin, it's still being worked on as the giant 'BETA' stickers allude to, so please check back on progress, as what you initially saw was not the finished product.
Therefore, constructive criticism is welcome at this point (Scourgem's post is a great example.)
I'll get around to fixing some stuff on the old skin too, but the new default style is what I'll be spending the majority of my time doing.
The red buttons are still placeholders, I've built a template in photoshop to make the process of replacing/chaning the fonts/colours etc. a litte quicker - eventually there'll be a couple of options for colour/style on the new skin.
Hostile
12-04-2007, 08:56 PM
Yup... http://www.unrealplayground.com/forums/upskin3/images/buttons/mymaps.gif
Caught myself clicking on it! :D
Thanks for all your help too J6! :rockon:
Manticore
12-05-2007, 01:34 AM
These boards seem to have reverted to the default theme and I can't seem to find the option to choose the oldskool (nostalgia) skin.
I dunno, :dunno: perhaps I'm not looking in the right place any more or something?:type:
... but as long as we have News Radio I'm happy.:claps:
Kindness
12-05-2007, 02:55 AM
These boards seem to have reverted to the default theme and I can't seem to find the option to choose the oldskool (nostalgia) skin. …
I guess the powers that be have compelled us all to use the new, generic forum theme. I don't feel good about that.
Valis
12-05-2007, 03:01 AM
Actually I tend to agree. I hate to be a thorn in the side of JohnnySix, but the old theme made this one of the few sites I could trawl when I was bored & tired. Even with the more muted grey this site is blinding in my dark studio on my Samsung 275t (and I have it at 30% brightness!).
I was happily using the old skin for a bit there too... :p
I think if the white container background were black or near black it would help a great deal though. I can live with grey for the main posting/reading areas but the downside there I've found is that it's hard to get a good contrast for people who don't have insanely high contrast monitors (ie, ancient hand-me-down crt's that many kids have).
Manticore
12-05-2007, 04:14 AM
I can live with it if I've got to; at least it's on the UP.:cool:
Swanky
12-05-2007, 05:53 AM
New Beta, I see... Now where's the skin change button?
Kingster
12-05-2007, 08:00 AM
These boards seem to have reverted to the default theme and I can't seem to find the option to choose the oldskool (nostalgia) skin.
I dunno, :dunno: perhaps I'm not looking in the right place any more or something?:type:
... but as long as we have News Radio I'm happy.:claps:
I guess the powers that be have compelled us all to use the new, generic forum theme. I don't feel good about that.
Actually I tend to agree. I hate to be a thorn in the side of JohnnySix, but the old theme made this one of the few sites I could trawl when I was bored & tired...
I found it right in the same places it has been... Bottom of every page, your User CP --> Options page, etc.
JohnnySix
12-05-2007, 08:24 AM
I just heard on the radio that the Chinese word for opportunity is also the word for change, and also the word for great danger - seems appropriate here. :spank:
The black skin was put back to appease the loudest complaints, and will have some minor tweaks to make it compatable with the new version of vb- but it's been enough of an investment (30+ hours) creating everything from scratch with the new skin for me, to then start over again to calm the loud minority.
I look forward to constructive ideas from people - I have limited holiday left , and I usually work 13-15 hour days, so next week will not have so much time to invest.
And please step back a moment from your keyboard, take a deep breath, and think of all the really important things, like family, friends, health, and try then measure how much the colour of a forum means within that scale?
I've tried not to be offended by people dumping on the new stuff from a great height without even taking a second look, as most people have no clue about how much time it takes to create it, but plenty know better.
So please, if you have something useful to say, go ahead, but if you're going to descend to the emotional maturity of a 4-year-old, stay away from the reply button...
BigJim
12-05-2007, 11:12 AM
The black skin was put back to appease the loudest complaints, and will have some minor tweaks to make it compatable with the new version of vb- but it's been enough of an investment (30+ hours) creating everything from scratch with the new skin for me, to then start over again to calm the loud minority.
NP, as soon as I found the 2002 skin, which was about 8 minutes after loading UP the new site, I was happy. :cool:
I'm using a nice black theme, which is what I'm used to, and hey lookit-this; a spangly new theme is also being worked on & beta'ed at the same time - so everyone's a winner, right?
I've tried not to be offended by people dumping on the new stuff from a great height without even taking a second look, as most people have no clue about how much time it takes to create it, but plenty know better.I think I mentioned this in another thread but - and I mean this 100% literally - what is there not to like?
None of the forums' features afaik have been cruelly taken away, and nothing's been changed to the extent I can't use it any more, and if a noob like me can figure it all out in less time than it takes to write this post, then anyone can, simple as that.
Ok, maps are being worked on, but really, have any of us really found a huge stock of brand new maps that were lying around & we were just itching to UPload right now? That can't wait a couple of days? I doubt it.
Oh, I just found another useful feature.
If I've already written out a post, and I go back to a line and add a smiley to the end of it, the smiley no longer defaults to the very bottom of the text-block.
Now come on your mardy-mardy people, that single thing alone's gotta be worth the price of change! :D
As to what could be added, hmms;
I can't really think of anything tbh - I come here for the other posters, and as long as we can all undrstand each other to the bear minimum I'm happy.
If it's possible to change the image limit so that it counts actual images and smileys as separate things, that would be great (I tend to use the [img] tags to display a lot of pics) and then you find yourself having to trim out the single winky-face you added to denote a joke, or culling out smilys from other people's quotes because my linked images have used UP my 10-pic image limit, but other than that, I'd just say sit back & enjoy the remainder of your hols matie, have a couple of :beer:'s and relax.
Kingster
12-05-2007, 11:23 AM
I'll look into something that counts images and smilies seperate, but I don't know if such a thing exists.
BigJim
12-05-2007, 11:43 AM
Cools, thank you. :)
It's far from being a major thing though, tbh I've never heard of any other forum that counts them as separate, so it might well not be possible/no need to bust any asses on my account/etc/etc.. :cool:
Demaun
12-05-2007, 04:13 PM
could just have a smilie defined as a pic thats a certain size or less, then when determining whether or not a particular picture is a smilie, just check its size against that
Manticore
12-05-2007, 04:30 PM
I found it right in the same places it has been... Bottom of every page, your User CP --> Options page, etc.
I looked and looked yesterday but for some reason I couldn't see it.
Anyway the olskool theme has returned, thanks. Personally I still find it easier on the eyes.:rockon:
Hostile
12-05-2007, 05:40 PM
I looked and looked yesterday but for some reason I couldn't see it.
Last night, when I was playing around with my sig. The button had disappeared for awhile, then this morning it was back. So it probably was just from them working on the site.
JorBay
12-05-2007, 09:47 PM
Is now kind of running. We're slowly getting it together...
Please be patient!
There are some significant changes, and a fair amount of things could well be broken.
PATIENT..........r u kidding me???!!!! Hurry the hell UP!!!!!!!:coffee:
Airlea
12-05-2007, 11:54 PM
PATIENT..........r u kidding me???!!!! Hurry the hell UP!!!!!!!:coffee:
Can I take you out back somewhere and beat you? :spank:
Nitestalker
12-06-2007, 12:54 AM
Can I take you out back somewhere and beat you? :spank:
He usually has to pay a premium for that.
SuperApe
12-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Hey, nice digs.
It took me an awfully long time to realize the old forum direct link wouldn't do it, that I needed to get here via the UP front page. (Thanks to Hort's sig linking to GAforums, I got the idea that UP was back UP)
Don't fret the complaints about skin color scheme, King. Old habits are hard to break, sometimes change scares people. That said, I like color, vote for color in the final version. :cool:
Thanks for the continued support and hard work, Kingster. You da man. I'll have fun exploring the new features, etc.
BigJim
12-06-2007, 10:42 AM
Hey, nice digs.
It took me an awfully long time to realize the old forum direct link wouldn't do it, that I needed to get here via the UP front page.
Heehee - same here, glad I wasn't the only one. :claps:
I couldn't get onto UP for days, using a Firefox bookmark.
In the end it was only luck that I deleted-out the "Forums" bit from the address bar and lo! The front page popped UP.
I felt a bit stupid after that though so I kept schtum about it..
Ps: What the hell kind of avatar is that!? Arrgh! :eek: ;)
Took you only what....3 years?
haha been a long time Kingster...things look great and nice to see lots of old faces. :)
Hope all is well! Happy Holidays to all! :claps:
Kingster
12-06-2007, 01:58 PM
Took you only what....3 years?
haha been a long time Kingster...things look great and nice to see lots of old faces. :)
Hope all is well! Happy Holidays to all! :claps:
Holy schnikeys! He lives! Don't be such a stranger, F7...
And yeah, I'm slow. Never said I was a genius. :D
JohnnySix
12-06-2007, 07:11 PM
Welcome back F7. :)
Cheers! :beer:
What's the flavor of the month? You guys still play UT99 or has everyone moved onto UT3?
Zinia
12-07-2007, 07:52 AM
Cheers! :beer:
What's the flavor of the month? You guys still play UT99 or has everyone moved onto UT3?
Who are you? :beer:
I used to be a Texan...then I decided I didn't want to marry a relative and moved to Jersey. :p
Kingster
12-07-2007, 09:16 AM
ROFLMAO!!! So now you're married to Vinny in SingSing?
SuperApe
12-07-2007, 09:16 AM
Ps: What the hell kind of avatar is that!? Arrgh! :eek: ;)Shortly after arriving at my current job, I found an old technology "proof of concept" video put out by Epic on the upcoming Unreal engine features. (just after UT99) This guy showed off fully articulate facial animation. Neat model, I wonder what happened to him. (I honestly just need a moment to breathe to upload my proper avatar from home)
F7, the flavor of the month is apparently skin-bashing.
ROFLMAO!!! So now you're married to Vinny in SingSing?
Vinny's yesterday's news. Giancarlo is where it's at! :loopy:
F7, the flavor of the month is apparently skin-bashing.
Death, war, famine, and the Ice Capades and the best that people can come up with here is worrying about forum skins?
For shame! :hammer:
BigJim
12-07-2007, 03:03 PM
F7, the flavor of the month is apparently skin-bashing.
Heehee - ;)
Honestly, that guy is mr Scary-face, I near jumped out of my skin when the pages' images loaded UP.. :p
Airlea
12-07-2007, 03:24 PM
He usually has to pay a premium for that.
I'll give him a freebie bashing this ONE time. :spank:
-=JUDGE=-
12-07-2007, 03:31 PM
The new site is starting to grow on me, and I don't mind the gray skin so much now.
I will say that the site seems faster then before, which is a good thing.
Valis
12-07-2007, 06:06 PM
Site is definately faster. :)
Swanky
12-14-2007, 04:14 AM
Might it be that the whole website has gotten very slow? At least it has for me, I'm normally waiting around 10 (ten) seconds to have a page loaded, not everything else, and I'm getting the 500 Internal Server Error very often. :loopy:
On a regular site, I'm waiting a second to have the page loaded, but that regular doesn't seem to apply here.
Just wanted to have it mentioned. :)
Zinia
12-14-2007, 06:41 AM
Site is definately faster. :)
Totally agree. That and I don't have to logout twice every time I leave the forums like I used to do.
Kingster
12-14-2007, 10:13 AM
Might it be that the whole website has gotten very slow? At least it has for me, I'm normally waiting around 10 (ten) seconds to have a page loaded, not everything else, and I'm getting the 500 Internal Server Error very often. :loopy:
On a regular site, I'm waiting a second to have the page loaded, but that regular doesn't seem to apply here.
Just wanted to have it mentioned. :)
Between 4AM and 5AM Central, the server does all of it's backups, log rotates, etc. You posted that at 4:14AM Central, so the server was just busy. When I set a time to do those things, I tried to pick a time that was after 2AM Pacific time, as that was when most west-coasters went to bed, and the game server redirects could then be affected.
I can't give you any better explanation.
Swanky
12-14-2007, 11:49 AM
Okay all right. The site is running at normal speed right now, so I suppose it was just what you have explained. :)
Kingster
12-14-2007, 01:55 PM
Okay all right. The site is running at normal speed right now, so I suppose it was just what you have explained. :)
I know it was. :D
blito3
12-29-2007, 04:03 PM
i know i posted just a few minutes ago....no chat....put a pop up chat or a chat that appears somewhere on the main page for logged on members(optional setting for the person when they log on)...good idea or not...that is the question.
King Mango
05-30-2008, 07:04 AM
ok us drunk mother****ers NEED to have new posts reflect our recent posts so when we realize we ****ed up we can easily fix ****.
This has actually bugged me sober too...
:claps: for browse by author though
And I did about an hour of PHP learnin today... I think I'm ready
lol ;)
Still gonna study it though cuz I guess it will be one of those things that will come in handy. I used to be able to adjust the floats on a carb or swap out the jets etc...
Nothing ever even lasts a ****ing generation anymore even. ffs
King Mango
05-30-2008, 07:15 AM
HOLY **** YOU <SIZE=FIVE TIMES BIGGER THAN AVAILABLE>****ED UP</SIZE> the buddy list...
[EDIT]Edited out the :p because I'm actually really disgruntled
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