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SuddenImpact
04-04-2005, 02:07 PM
Unreal Tournament has had a good run so far and the community has acheived some great things. I had an idea in mind that I actually started about 4 months ago, the idea was to create an unreal tournament hall of fame, showcasing the talent from the ut series. So far i am just gathering intel as its very difficult to find certain people, clans, mappers etc to get permission from them to add them/their content. I started with the clans and clan wise the participation is pretty good. I wanted to try and get the mapper inductees finished by the end of next month, I have provided a list of mappers I see as #1 priority for the HoF. I know for sure I have forgotten some which I am sorry but I am also juggling around information on about 30 unreal, ut99, and ut2k3/2k4 clans.

This project was going to be a full scale web site with download access to each and every map, mutator, skin, etc. Then I saw what it was going to run me each month, almost as much as my rent for my apartment with the amount of files being stored. So, a little while ago I thought up the idea to map out a "virtual museum", using the Unreal Tournament3 level editor when it comes out, and include the content information within the map. I also wanted to come up with an interface that would seperate files in an easy to use install/remove programs type of interface, like what windows uses. Anyhow, this is the list of mappers I would very much like to add to the hof, if I did not mention someone who deserves to be mentioned please let me know, as for now im trying to keep the mapper limit at 30 for the time being. If anyone is interested in geting into the hof please contact me also. Thank you for eveyones time.

-SuddenImpact
suddenimpact24@yahoo.com

mappers please leave this information:

NAME:
NICK NAME:
AGE (BY THE YEAR 2006):
YEARS MAPPING EXPERIENCE:
YOUR FAVORITE MAP NOT CREATED BY YOU:
YEARS EXPERIENCE PLAYING THE UT SERIES:
YOUR BEST MAP CREATED (NAME):
ALL YOUR PUBLISHED MAPS (NAMES):
GAME TYPE (WHAT U MAP FOR):
FAVORITE MAP GENRE (THEME):

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MAPPERS

Horton
L_S :rockon:
Blito3
Angel_Mapper
SabbathCat
Blitz :rockon:
Cobra :rockon:
BeWildeerBeast
Bot_40
BranDoom (anyone remember a map called AsgaurdSE for ut99?) :dunno:
Cipro
FragnBraG
GroundZero
KingMango

Swanky
04-04-2005, 02:24 PM
You forgot at least me ( :P ), Kami and Hourences. Oh and I do think that some of the mappers you mentioned are so called "one hit wonders".

Creeper
04-04-2005, 02:53 PM
I'd be very cautious calling anyone in that list a one-hit wonder.

I'd also add Ghandi to the list in both mapper and mod maker categories.

Cobra
04-04-2005, 03:28 PM
I thank you, And I feel very honored and proud, all the mapers they are simply super, me I can do whatever I whant whit bots, (no braging but it is true when I feel like it) And I think that my maps are damn fun to play. I have to agree whit hourence, and Ghandi they should be there. But each one of those mapers have unique skill, in one way or they other. And they deseve to be in that list.



And you will have alway's people saying HACHHH not that mapper, or not this mapper?. I have learn whit time, that if a person don't like you, all you will do will alway's be crap, even if it is good stuff. So please respect that choice. Even if you don't agreed whit some mappers being there. It is not your choice don't forget that. So please respect that.

TexasGtar
04-04-2005, 04:53 PM
I made a unreal Tournament map for Thunderstrikes competition a while back that was "THE Unreal Tournament Hall of Fame" building and surroundings with many monster visitors and was thinking you were going to make one and I was going to say please use any and all of my ideas I put in that map but I now see this is completely different. It had showcases with armor and nali fruit etc behind plexiglass and even a snack bar..lol well. uhm.. since this is completely different..nevermind..lol.


I like your idea and those folks on your list certainly deserve some recognition.
Keep them ideas rolling in.

Angel_Mapper
04-04-2005, 05:10 PM
This project was going to be a full scale web site with download access to each and every map, mutator, skin, etc. Then I saw what it was going to run me each month, almost as much as my rent for my apartment with the amount of files being stored.Yeah, you can ask Hort or Kingster how much hosting thousands of maps can run you. ;)

Dark JaXx
04-05-2005, 01:21 AM
L.J Paranoid??

Uncle_Bob
04-05-2005, 10:50 AM
How about Lruce Bee, Angel Heart, Spoondog and Darthweasel. All of have done some exceptional maps.

Dark JaXx
04-05-2005, 11:17 AM
What of Ulukai?? Nice mapper though. :)

Swanky
04-05-2005, 11:34 AM
Yeah, right, I agree with those. I love Ulukai's DeNovo.

Professor
04-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Thunderstrike??? :cool: :D

Dorkorama
04-05-2005, 01:19 PM
What about mod / mutator / script authors?

Wormbo
Eavy
BDB
0fus (a.k.a. yrns)
Slick Willy

I know I'm forgetting quite a few.

Swanky
04-05-2005, 01:22 PM
Doc Holiday ( www.docnetgroup.de.vu ), author of various (good) UT Gameplay extensions like Adrenaline, Crazy Stats + Skillz EX (UT 2k4 only *sad*)

Creeper
04-05-2005, 02:16 PM
usar33 and {Pin}Kev for mutators, and Squirrelinabox and Switch for maps.

fragnbrag
04-05-2005, 02:45 PM
oh god thanks for the mention SI but _i_ certainly don't deserve to be in a hall of fame list, much as i'd like to be i'm certainly not worthy of that accolade! i can think of so many Unreal/UT+ mappers/level designers that are much more skilled, creative and productive than _me_ :D and so far you're missing some obvious ones: Scourgem, Mortal Plague, Plutonic, Chrysaor and many many others from over the years (i'd have to go dig up the info but what about those ORM guys ??? can't think of the name (doh) but one of those guys was (Nathilian i think) is awesome beyond belief !!!! and what about Tedabod ... ?

... maybe you should set up a poll and also get NaliCity to vote too ?
Then pick the top 25 etc etc etc

that Could be fun .. the long debates in the forums heheh those will be FUN to read, LOL!

cheers

XepptizZ
04-05-2005, 03:25 PM
KaMi should really be in there IMO and Hourences, Swanky and Ulukai too.

SuddenImpact
04-05-2005, 03:35 PM
lol yes guys i know about many of those mod makers and coders and they will receive a well deserved spot but at the moment im working on the mapper category, id like to do this buy the book so that all the information is correct and up to date and that I dont leave anyone left out who should be in. Heck, im still trying to hunt down a couple Unreal 1 former clans whos recognition has been requested by the clanning community, very very very hard to find unreal1 former clans (Bad Motherf**kers and GoodFellas). I listen to the communities requests and go from there a long with who I know deserves recognition. Everything great that has made ut what it is today will be added I promise you that (jailbreak, utpure, utforever, TacOps, DM-Venom, 7bullets mod, valhalla, zark, ut bonus pack 4, ctfdo-the-right-thing mod, map vote, strangelove, etc), nothing will be left out that contributed to making this great game even better.

Its gonna be long and tedious process, i may end up putting together a site w/out the download links at 1st then turn to Epic to see if I can get hosting and back up for maybe 1 file per inductee. Or maybe a bonus pack type umod with 1 file per inductee with an options menu that allows you to view and read about the content b4 installing it, but the finished product is a long ways away and right now i just wanna concentrait on the intel/information 1st, if I go with the "virtual museum" (which will be the communities choice) ill turn to various mappers to help me, for the community by the community. I enjoy this game so much ive lost 5, yes 5 girlfreinds cause thats how much I play ut and am involved with it lol, I just wanna do something to benefit the talent that exists within the ut community. :type: :) :)

XepptizZ
04-05-2005, 03:41 PM
KaMi should really be in there IMO and Hourences, Swanky and Ulukai too.

These are Briliant mappers.

fragnbrag
04-05-2005, 04:02 PM
hmmm... you sound really serious and dedicated to this SI ... good luck with it :)

hmm.. :scratch: is _any_ computer game worth five girlfriends? haveta wonder about that one, LOL!

cheers

Frieza
04-05-2005, 04:30 PM
Curious list that one, and I cant say I agree with all your choices :p

And yes, Hourences should definately be on that list.

Professor
04-05-2005, 06:25 PM
Curious list that one, and I cant say I agree with all your choices :p

And yes, Hourences should definately be on that list.
Hehee! DM-Dinashar is a masterful piece of work there dude! :cool: I think you should be on that list too. :D

Cheerz

Creeper
04-05-2005, 07:37 PM
hmm.. :scratch: is _any_ computer game worth five girlfriends?

Depends on the girl. :beer:

HortonsWho
04-05-2005, 08:01 PM
I'm honored but I don't belong there. Maybe as a reviewer :p but my mapping? Meh.

Thanks though! :)

Dark JaXx
04-06-2005, 12:40 AM
Suntzu was nice though Swanky...I loved those japonees pillars in the roof with the flag of Japan in the middle. :)

And yeah, Kami is defenitely the best mapper at the moment...

DM-LastCrusader trilogy.
DM-Area52
DM-Siberia
DM-Nibelheim

and a litle bit more.

XepptizZ
04-06-2005, 03:45 AM
Suntzu was nice though Swanky...I loved those japonees pillars in the roof with the flag of Japan in the middle. :)

And yeah, Kami is defenitely the best mapper at the moment...

DM-LastCrusader trilogy.
DM-Area52
DM-Siberia
DM-Nibelheim

and a litle bit more.

Suntzu is made by Ulukai, don't forget to do your homework next time ;) .

Also, I liked Swanky's CTF-DeNova a vaaayry vaaaayry lot and the same for his DM-Vsys.

Swanky
04-06-2005, 06:10 AM
I din't make DeNovo... just two DM-Maps in the same style, Vsys and Vrais.
see my maps list here: www.swanky.de.vu

Dark JaXx
04-06-2005, 10:37 AM
Suntzu is made by Ulukai, don't forget to do your homework next time ;) .

Also, I liked Swanky's CTF-DeNova a vaaayry vaaaayry lot and the same for his DM-Vsys.

Whaha LOL! Read a few posts more, and you can read that Swanky said:

Yeah, right, I agree with those. I love Ulukai's DeNovo.


And I said: Suntzu was nice though Swanky!

Swanky
04-06-2005, 12:46 PM
SuntZu... hm... style is cool, but in some places it lacks in items and playability. I know it's hard to make a BIG DM map so that nowhere is a blackout spot, and this is why the map is still good.

Professor
04-06-2005, 04:12 PM
I just like maps that run well on my old PC, play well, and at the same time look convincing. It doesn't take 2000 polys in a view to make a map look convincing!. It also doesn't take all kinds of frame killing stuff like animated fire, water, ice, and wet textures, or a bunch of animated models to make a map look convincing.

I'm kinda partial to Nathillien Thilsa's maps. They play pretty good, look really awesome, and are convincing as a theme can be. :D

I played a map one time made by Daniel Kami that was a CTF. I cannot remember the name of it as it was lost on a failed hard drive some time back and I never redownloaded it. Anyway the map didn't look convincing and the fps never got above 10!. It was not the newer SiberiaN23 map, which doesn't run very well either only in the bases, it was one of his older ones made in like a Japaneese or Chineese style theme. I found it unplayable even in single player with everything turned off!. :(

Anyway what I'm trying to say is if I were to name all of the people the *I* think should be on this list Sudden Impact would have to expand his 30 mappers to 3000 mappers!. There are literally thousands of mappers out there that make great maps that also play well on older PC's.

Just two more pennies from me. :)

Cheerz

fragnbrag
04-06-2005, 04:57 PM
i still like the "vote" idea - maybe the catch is the voting pool should be mappers (as opposed to everyone) so voter would have to have an existing public release for UT/UT2k3/UT2k4, etc and then can vote for one mapper in each category, one skinner, modeller, coder, etc. heh kinda like academy awards, LOL! -- there's thousands and thousands of mappers since the beginning of UT, and recognition of (for example) first generation mappers (who could be long gone now) AS WELL AS current community favorite mappers is neccessary, after all, it is "Hall Of Fame". maybe top 100 ranked by vote... entering in sub-categories would also be nice (perhaps gametype, such as UTDM, UTCTF, UTAS, UTDOM, UT2-DM, UT2-ONS, UT2-AS, ETC... )
Genre could be another sub-category ...

Just some thoughts...

Cheers

XepptizZ
04-06-2005, 05:10 PM
With all that ranking and subclassing it sounds more interesting to just vote for the mostest bestest and beautifullest map.

Professor
04-06-2005, 05:20 PM
Ah! but you see Xepp? there is the problem. Beauty is *ONLY* in the eye of the beholder and beauty *IS* only skin deep!!. lol In other words one man's trash could be another man's treasure. :D

Cheerz

XepptizZ
04-06-2005, 05:34 PM
Ah, but I'm not as shallow as it might seem. With bestest I meant most playable, but that doesn't sound very good in the context IMO.

Hawkwind
04-06-2005, 10:29 PM
i like the idea of letting "published " mappers, moders etc. vote. just letting everybody vote would be a mess, and very unbalanced.
maybe a separate catagory of best level design and another of best constructed/looking map.
ctf-scandinavium by Chrille 'Electrofryer' Blomqvist and ctf-boxeh by [-will-] are cleverly desingned, but not at all artistic achievements.

is _any_ computer game worth five girlfriends?

is any girlfriend worth ut?
if you really love your sin, you should be willing to pay for it, even if it means leaving someone behind

Freakish
04-06-2005, 11:25 PM
I'm honored but I don't belong there. Maybe as a reviewer :p but my mapping? Meh.

Thanks though! :)

Awwww..but everyone lllllloved RadioFlyer!! :p

<-- hiding in the air ducts :moon:

blito3
04-06-2005, 11:40 PM
there are tons of mappers.....yikes.
Gonna be one hard time selecting any.
I guess your going to honour mappers who worked on UT 2k3 and 2k4 as starting point? :beer: ive forgot the names of a lot of my UT maps. since i dont keep them on my machine anymore after a while.

BeWilderBeest
04-07-2005, 02:20 AM
I'm on the list? Damn... I am but a one hit wonder.

Then again, I've never gotten into UT mappinng as much as I did for U1.

Dark JaXx
04-07-2005, 10:59 AM
It's the same as ranking Picasso and Van Gogh at one spot.


Nop!


Mapping is an art, and everybody has his own style...can't change that.

Professor
04-07-2005, 02:32 PM
I'm on the list? Damn... I am but a one hit wonder.

Then again, I've never gotten into UT mappinng as much as I did for U1.
See BWB! It's not only me that loves your work but probably all of the Unreal community loves it too! :p And you're not a one hit wonder!!!. :D

Cheerz

L.J.Paranoid
04-12-2005, 10:18 AM
Late to the party as usual. . .but can I just add a few? Desp#2, Dean Tate (I can never remember if his mapper name is goldbar or goldabar. . .something like that, he made the sexy jaded beauty!) Mr. Prophet and is his name Big B*st*rd or something? He made that ridiculously gorgeous CTF map. . .can't member it's name, It was in a castle or something. Anyway, I seriously think they should be on it.

And BWB, you know you're good. . .you just want more attention :p

BeWilderBeest
04-14-2005, 07:49 AM
I'm the biggest attention whore there is ;)

Chrysaor
06-18-2005, 04:29 AM
Hall of Fame? I'm not even done yet, damn it. ;)

King Mango
06-18-2005, 04:46 AM
First of all ty for including me on that list. It's fine company. I hope I'm not a one hit wonder. ;)
I agree with Hourences as a MUST include member.
Darth Weasel is also good.
Luv_Studd has to be included in any best of mappers list.
Tonberry and the other great classic mappers. You know... Clawfist and the gang. Get the one on one map pack to see what I mean.
Plutonic has to be on that list.
Saroner (http://nalicity.beyondunreal.com/view_author.php?aid=1764) if no one's mentioned.
I'd give up my spot to any of those guys.

Blitz, Tarquin, Wormbo and SlickWilly are the first coders that come to mind. But I don't play very many mods. Whoever coded TAM is a genius. After working with Blitz on URD the past few months... Man I'm just amazed.

So take off me, Hort and :blito: and then you can make room for three more lol :p

King Mango
06-18-2005, 04:47 AM
Hall of Fame? I'm not even done yet, damn it. ;)
talk about your one hit wonder... ;) :p
When you gonna drop another map Andy?

Swanky
06-18-2005, 04:53 AM
If it comes to coders, add Usaar33. He made the leet things from 7Bullets and Xidia.

Chrysaor
06-19-2005, 02:17 AM
I'm Being Subtle!

SuddenImpact
06-20-2005, 12:22 PM
As of now I am still collecting intel and information for the hof, the information part is still being worked on and will be finished. Now the hof itself is a lot more difficult, I had a crazy idea of making an actual virtual museum when ut2007 releases, but also, wouldnt it be cool if you were walking through the museum and for instance below:

You see DM-Deck_40 on display, you keep walking down a narrow hallway and walk right into the actual map of deck_40, totally playable. When you get bored you just walk back out of the map and back into the museum.


Now you see a display for the ut2k4 Ripper weapon, you keep walking down another narrow hallway and walk right into a Ripper arena, fully playable. When ur done just walk back out of it and back into the museum.


Its another idea that popped in my head a few months ago. and btw shrimp, usar, and the fraghouse team were already on my list. Expect another couple months b4 I visit this thread again, anyone ever play DM-Arkaine's Temple? this map is just awsome.

King Mango
06-20-2005, 12:29 PM
Arcane Temple was my favorite map after I got UT...
BTW this is an excellent idea on how to put the hall of fame together.
What would be cool to is to have a tour guide that could be summoned. With the way Epic is talking about AI it might be possible to have this bot act like a virtual docent. "Hey Guide, can you tell me where CTF-AllYourBase][SE is?" ;)

Swanky
06-20-2005, 01:12 PM
BTW: Who's on the list by now?

niX
06-20-2005, 05:42 PM
CTF-AllYourBase][SE oh man thats shiznach good map!