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[Squirrelinabox]

Wondering if Boomerang][ could be put on server 2 for some action? maybe vote pool after? ;)

[drinking vodka]

v2 should go into #2 rotation, but only if V1 comes off the servers forever. the goddamn spawnkilling on that map has turned me into a total angry bitch and girlz have way too many other important things to bitch about than punkassfukstikcowz!

deal?
-vodka

[Squirrelinabox]

Well, they are totally different maps, much more different than maps like the atomic island series. I agree that boomerang has its problems, but I don't see the spawn killing. I have played it many times and haven't seen the spawn killing in online play. Yes it is a bitch because you can sit and defend the entire base from outside but that is why the other team has to control it sometimes because it is so hard to defend. I wouldn't pull one because the other gets in, since they are completely different maps. If one is pulled it should be for other reasons (spawnkilling if it is that bad would be a reason) but not for sake of not having both on the vote.

[Freakish]

I agree..

I think there are many worse maps than Boomerang in rotation (though I've seen the spawnkilling thing come up a few times)..

I wouldn't mind seeing Boomerang go away, but I don't think it would be fair to take it out unless say Theatrum or a few others were taken out too.


Whatever..in the end the admins will prune the pool as they see fit and that's good 'nuff for me.

[HortonsWho]

Originally posted by Freakish
the admins will prune the pool as they see fit and that's good 'nuff for me.

Right said Fred.

Ditto

[drinking vodka]

don't get me wrong... if the underground routes into the bases weren't there, the spawnkilling would hardly be an issue... if the protector mod worked all the time, on every map with consistance, the spawnkilling would never be an issue. but there's been gripe about Boomerang ( and others) since it came out for those very reasons.

i actually like the play of the map minus the cheapass tactics that it rewards... just seems i've had my fill of spawning over and over again at the enforcer/thighpad area only to find some little puke sitting in the darkeness unloading into me or anyone else that spawns after me... and what's even more disturbing is that because the map is popular, many just say "oh well, stfu and play"... well, that's all well and good, but i don't think it's too much to consider mapz shouldn't reward stupidity, and sadly, while not intentional in design, Boomerang does.

SIAB himself is toting B2 as his proud new creation, so let's bring it on... but keeping problematic mapz while we have so many mapperz workin' hard on new ones, seems silly to me.

never easy, but straight up
-vodka

[Squirrelinabox]

DV you do make a good point, like you usually do. I agree the map has promoted more camping/defending than I thought it would and usually leads to poor play that way. I also agree with Freakish that there are much worse maps out there, Theatrum being a great example. For some reason people seem to love Theatrum and boomerang, I don't know why. I hate theatrum, like boomerang (of course I am a bit biased). If they do take out boomerang I will understand, as long as some other hated maps leave.

It all comes down to this. Maps such as Frequency, B3Lostmarines, and NightGolf][ should always have a place because even though some may not like them, just about everybody will play them if they come up. Maps such as Theatrum, Snowblind][, and Ezmerhim should probably be gotten rid of because even though many vote for them, they are the kind of maps that many will not even play. I leave the server if any of the above mentioned maps show up on rotation. Though I do not like nightgolf][ at all, and will never ever vote for it, I will still play it if it shows up on rotation. Does boomerang fall under category A or B? I don't know because I am obviously biased. Even though some maps get a lot of votes, it doesn't mean it is worthy of the server because it may empty it. Perhaps the idea of voting against maps would be beneficial, who knows, all I can say is that the server is awesome most of the time which is more than I can say for all the other servers out there. Oh yeah, and everybody check out Boomerang][ and post feedback in the Map Annnouncements section! :)

[MadMikey]

I have not looked at Boomerang][, yet. But I see no reason not to have both maps available. I am a fan of the AtomicIsland series, and all three of them are (were) available at the same time. While they may look somewhat alike, the gameplay (from an attacker's point of view) is quite different. Same goes for Bloodlust 1 & 2.

The times that it wouldn't make sense to keep both, is in the case of Ezmerhim/Ezmerhim-upd or Blasphemy/BlasphemyV2, where they are *essentially* the same map.

We'll try and get Boomerang][ up on #2 tonight.

[Squirrelinabox]

Wow, cool, thanks Mikey.