Saddam has been caught!!!! [Archive]

Idle Idol

12-14-2003, 07:54 AM

"Sadaam was discovered on stage during an amaetur kareoke competition, his first comment upon capture was a drunken "...and she knows how to usssssse em!", sources close to the former leader of Iraq say he demands another appletini or he will place an oil embargo stopping all Oil trade from his bladder to your face."

--Idle, yes...i made that up

p.s. Woot mc wooty mc wootifudgin mc woots!

Spiff

12-14-2003, 08:11 AM

Seems they were tipped off, or figured out where he was by tracking satelites or something...probably not true...Wonder who gets the bounty though

cUnNiNg_StUnTs

12-14-2003, 08:23 AM

dangit I should have read all forums first. :D

http://www.unrealplayground.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18514

SunnyDay

12-14-2003, 09:26 AM

He looks like hammered #$@#

ShirleyFT

12-14-2003, 11:28 AM

Mr. Bremmer, what were Saddam's first words after his capture?

He said, " Now I know how Nick Nolte felt."

Precedent

12-14-2003, 11:44 AM

LOL shirley :)

...but seriously, this wasn't timed to mitigate the heat generated the last few days over stealing $$ from you and me through Halliburton :weird:

teppic

12-14-2003, 12:55 PM

LOL shirley :)

...but seriously, this wasn't timed to mitigate the heat generated the last few days over stealing $$ from you and me through Halliburton :weird:

i smell.....corruption. i seriously cannot stand Bush, and i think it woulda been better if they didnt catch Saddam, cos i i hear Bush is trying to get him sentenced to death, which would just make Saddam a martyr :moreconf:

that whole thing about Bush just invading Iraq cos the Vice President having all those contracts with halliburton to clean rebuild it really burns me up.

on a lighter note, my friends' dad work at halliburton near (or in) Arbroath...

phalanx

12-14-2003, 01:03 PM

isn't the death penalty a breach of human rights set out at the geneva confrance which all countrys should follow?

Vertigo

12-14-2003, 01:22 PM

mmmmmm i wonder how much did bush & his pals pray for this to happen. :sour:

Angel_of_Death

12-14-2003, 03:48 PM

hmm but wut if it not the real saddam because i heard that he realy looks like this

Nitestalker

12-14-2003, 04:30 PM

Was it "in a rat hole" or "like a rat in a hole"?

-=[Dg]=-

12-14-2003, 05:02 PM

...cos i i hear Bush is trying to get him sentenced to death, which would just make Saddam a martyr.

Not true.
If anything Saddam will face a war crimes tribunal in his own country and/or face charges before The Hague world court.

Oh and yes, Bush sux.

ShirleyFT

12-14-2003, 05:13 PM

Thanks for letting me know it's all a Haliburton cover up, because all this time I thought it was about the Pelican Brief. :moon:

Hey, if we need something else covered up down the road we can let Saddam loose and then catch him again. :loopy:

OshadowO

12-14-2003, 05:30 PM

Was it "in a rat hole" or "like a rat in a hole"?
I think both :D
It looks like he's trying to audition for Gandalf or something. Needs more white hair tho:/

Spiffness

12-14-2003, 11:17 PM

Now that we caught the scapegoat.. could we get the real culprit?

"Osama bin who? Naw naw! we already got a muslum! look!"

Ghost_of_War

12-14-2003, 11:32 PM

that whole thing about Bush just invading Iraq cos the Vice President having all those contracts with halliburton to clean rebuild it really burns me up.

OMG, here come the Bush haters (dems). :rolleyes:
I suppose you guys would have prefered that we gave all of our tax dollars to France? Can you please give us hard working, tax payers a break. Thanks.

As far as bagging Saddam goes, that's awesome... just in time for Christmas too. :D

Bush ownz. (pun intended) :rockon:

-=[Dg]=-

12-15-2003, 02:11 AM

NO!
You are wrong.

Bush Sucks and GoW sucks too!
(it's true 'cause i said so!)

ShirleyFT

12-15-2003, 02:28 AM

It's interesting how many people are upset about Saddam being caught. I can understand Arabs and the French being upset, but it's interesting how many Americans weren't happy. The Democrats are losing their minds, Kerry, Dean, Clark. It says a lot about them. Of course, their PRIMARY interest is winning an election, not America.

It's also pretty funny when the leader of Hamas, as many Arabs, was disappointed that Saddam didn't blow himself up or sacrifice himself (like Hitler). I guess they never understood how Saddam thought all those suicide bombers were simply cannon fodder. Many eyes were opened today and much more than Saddam came out of the spider hole and into the light.

LMFAO!!! :D

Kindness

12-15-2003, 02:53 AM

... it's interesting how many Americans weren't happy. The Democrats are losing their minds, Kerry, Dean, Clark. It says a lot about them.Just to correct the record, some actual reactions from real Democrats, not made up stuff. :) It's a necessary step along the road to U.S. success in Iraq. ... This was not a necessary conflict, but as I have said, once we're there, we have to be successful.President Bush deserves a day of celebration. We have our policy differences, but we won't be discussing those today.We need to build on this success by addressing the threats posed to the world by the combination of tyrannical leaders, rogue nations and a worldwide proliferation of dangerous weapons.For many years, we will be confronted with a war on terrorism that is unfinished ... and we need a president who has the credibility to unite the American people and our allies.Today is another opportunity to invite the world into a post-Saddam Iraq and build the coalition to win the peace that we should have built to win the war.If we Democrats want to win back the White House and take this country forward, we have to show the American people that we're prepared to keep them safe.

source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2003-12-14-politics-react_x.htm

ShirleyFT

12-15-2003, 03:20 AM

If you read the quotes provided by Kindness you'll see most of them are attacks on Bush and the current adminstration. You can see how they used the capture of Saddam for political attacks. Nothing changes.

The Dems are running out of ammunition though. The jobless recovery they went on about in September is turning around, the Dow broke 10,000 this week, and progress continues to be made in Iraq. If it were left up to any of these Dems Saddam would still be in power, business as usual.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=2&u=/ap/20031215/ap_on_el_pr/saddam_democrats

"It is not the central part of the war on terror. We need a president who understands the real war on terror is not Iraq. It's al-Qaida, Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) and it's America's role in the world, which right now is creating more terrorists and making us less safe." Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry

"The president should have already brought international friends and allies into the process — that would have helped it move faster," said North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

SloththeShovel

12-15-2003, 08:50 AM

It's also pretty funny when the leader of Hamas, as many Arabs, was disappointed that Saddam didn't blow himself up or sacrifice himself (like Hitler). I guess they never understood how Saddam thought all those suicide bombers were simply cannon fodder. Many eyes were opened today and much more than Saddam came out of the spider hole and into the light.
LMFAO!!! :D

I wanted to stay out of this thread so bad. But yeah, the fact he didn't blow himself up probably stung alot of the clueless. The fact Saddam will no longer be paying the families of suicide bombers kinda makes me happy. I see a strong but bizarre friendship brewing between Saddam and Michael Jackson. Lets get the troops home real soon. Like tomorrow. Thanks. Bye.

teppic

12-15-2003, 08:54 AM

LOL

are you sure you read all the quotes? the only one i saw as an "attack on Bush" was: Quote:
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Originally Posted by Missouri Rep. Richard Gephardt
For many years, we will be confronted with a war on terrorism that is unfinished ... and we need a president who has the credibility to unite the American people and our allies.
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all the others seem to be saying that its a day of celebration, etc etc.

"We have out policy differences but we wont be discussing them now " (Howard Dean).

either you have been taking the quotes totally wrong or i have :rolleyes:

anyway, maybe Saddam is actually Santa Clause and theyve just went and rumbled his secret layer...

if i dont get any presents this year i'll be taking the first flight over to the US to give Bush a good slapping with my glove :moreconf:

tr@xtandn

12-15-2003, 09:31 AM

</3 boring politics

blah blah blah

Bush sux, Saddam sux...humans suck

teppic

12-15-2003, 10:10 AM

</3 boring politics

blah blah blah

Bush sux, Saddam sux...humans suck

humare are teh pwn!

they are better than stupid ass shrimp anyway :moon:

Kingster

12-15-2003, 10:53 AM

I love how Dems get lumped together. While I certainly disagreed with the war in general, I'm glad Saddam has been caught. I'm also glad as to HOW he was caught - looking like the coward that he is.

No... The capture of Saddam is certainly a good thing. We can finally close that chapter up. Let's finish rebuilding that place, and get our boys home - ASAP. If the country implodes, then so be it.

On a final note... Let's keep this about Saddam's capture. Not Bush, not US politics, etc. There's a reason we don't have a politics forum anymore. 'Nuff said on that subject.

freshie

12-15-2003, 11:03 AM

well it least it's been awhile since one of these busted out.

still... they play out exactly as remembered.

1_LoSt_TaLiBaN

12-15-2003, 11:33 AM

OMG, here come the Bush haters (dems). :rolleyes:
I suppose you guys would have prefered that we gave all of our tax dollars to France? Can you please give us hard working, tax payers a break. Thanks.

As far as bagging Saddam goes, that's awesome... just in time for Christmas too.

Bush ownz. (pun intended) :rockon:

OMG, /me pisses in the cheerios of GoW (tard). :rolleyes:

I suppose you would have prefered that we relinquish that burdensome privilege of making up our own minds to a gerbil with a texas accent that can sing and dance? Can you please give us hard working, (atleast pretending to have an independent thought) tax payers a break. Thanks.

As far as bagging Saddam goes, that's awesome... can Bush go home now? :p

my dik ownz. (pun intended) :rockon:

C.H.U.D.

12-15-2003, 11:34 AM

they play out exactly as remembered.

Almost...

Dems = CLICKME (http://www.xlr8-recordings.co.uk/wallpaper/hammerandsickle1024x768.jpg)

Ok. Now it's complete. :evil:

_

freshie

12-15-2003, 11:47 AM

Almost...
Dems = CLICKME (http://www.xlr8-recordings.co.uk/wallpaper/hammerandsickle1024x768.jpg)
Ok. Now it's complete. :evil:
_

he.

ShirleyFT

12-15-2003, 11:48 AM

On a final note... Let's keep this about Saddam's capture. Not Bush, not US politics, etc. There's a reason we don't have a politics forum anymore. 'Nuff said on that subject.

I was cool on it until it turned into a "attack Bush" thread. I don't see what the problem is. Delta force grabbed Saddam without spilling any blood, they gave Saddam a shave, a haircut and some clean clothes and then within a day they brought him before members of the Iraqi council. Oh, and Bush made a quick announcement about the capture (without gloating) and reminded everybody that this doesn't mean it's over.

Yes, I want the troops out as soon as possible too. An occupation is always a disaster, but the same people who are complaining that the troops are still there also complained about leaving Afghanistan too early. They're shooting for June 31st for an Iraqi government to take control. That's only a couple months away, but hopefully they can pull it off and we can get the hell out of there.

Another note: A day after Saddam got captured France is considering cutting some of Iraq's debt. Odd timing, huh?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&e=30&u=/afp/20031215/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_debt_france_031215132308

Ghost_of_War

12-15-2003, 06:57 PM

Alice in Chains ownz... just like Bush. :evil:

Tali = Hard working, tax paying citizen who thinks??? :dunno: :moon:

:D

Yeah baby, yeah!

Phantomis Maximus.

1_LoSt_TaLiBaN

12-15-2003, 10:18 PM

Tali = Hard working, tax paying citizen who thinks??? :dunno: :moon

hey its not much but I qualled as an expert rifleman.... if you check my military records ;)

freshie

12-16-2003, 09:08 AM

<RANT ON!>

F**king Vatican. First off, this has nothing to do with catholicism. I respect peoples individual choices in beliefs. However, the Catholic churches hierarchy has chosen to involve itself in politics, and therefore is subject to my wrath.

article in question:

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A top Vatican official says he feels pity and compassion for Saddam Hussein and criticises the U.S. military for showing video footage of him being treated "like a cow".

Cardinal Renato Martino, head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department and a former papal envoy to the United Nations, told a news conference on Tuesday it would be "illusory" to think the arrest of the former Iraqi president would heal all the damage caused by a war which the Holy See opposed.

"I felt pity to see this man destroyed, (the military) looking at his teeth as if he were a cow. They could have spared us these pictures," he said.

"Seeing him like this, a man in his tragedy, despite all the heavy blame he bears, I had a sense of compassion for him," he said in answer to questions about Saddam's arrest.

Dear Vatican:

First off... you are led by a senile old man who can't even hold himself erect. Cheap shots aside.

From the bottom of my heart I apologize for my government's mistreatment of the tyrant by photographing him while giving him a physical. I wish you all the luck in the world with your continued persecution of Jews, and your campaign to spread HIV through the third world with your continued obstruction of safe-sex practices. Enjoy your tenure in hell for your complacency in the halocaust and earlier centuries persecutions of jews and protestants. Don't work too hard on concealing known child-molestors with-in your organization.

When we catch Osama, we'll put him up at a full suite in the Waldorf Astoria and give him access to a full harem. You can have access as well so you can smooch his arse for 24 hours a day.

Kindest Regards,

The freshmaker

NLA*Madison

12-16-2003, 09:39 AM

OMFG that is hilarious and true at the same time Freshie. Spot on.

DeadMeatGF

12-16-2003, 10:36 AM

I'm with Freshie on this one.

teppic

12-16-2003, 11:13 AM

freshie

12-16-2003, 11:35 AM

lmao

sometimes religion can just plain suck. i was baptised a catholic and went to catholic primary schools, and all seemed ok. but then i grew up and realised the oppression.

imo, the only reason the church is against safe-sex is cos they want loads more followers of their religion :moreconf:

religion = crowd control

I've given up my misanthropy towards religion. If it helps the individual, good for them. Sure some people can twist religion to serve evil purposes, however that doesn't make religion itself evil. Most people can practice it in a way that does not interfere in the life of other people.

Howerver, the Vatican is just an anochronism. An organization that continues to do damage. That statement just pissed the hell out of me. At least France and Russia who had implicit interests in Iraq, never had the gaul to come out and say that they empathized with Saddam. Just what the hell was their point in opposing the war??

ShirleyFT

12-16-2003, 02:04 PM

Catholics are persecuting Jews? WTF, Freshie?

And for the rest of you Leftwing conspiracy lovers, enjoy:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&ncid=1278&e=2&u=/ap/20031216/ap_on_go_co/saddam_mcdermott

freshie

12-16-2003, 02:32 PM

Catholics are persecuting Jews? WTF, Freshie?

In case you missed it, let me repeat myself...

First off, this has nothing to do with catholicism. I respect peoples individual choices in beliefs.

If it is unclear, let me clarify... I do not raise any issue with the catholic belief system, nor with those who are members of the catholic hierarchy.

One more time: I have nothing against catholicism. My beef is with the Vatican.

HortonsWho

12-16-2003, 02:38 PM

I like flowers... especially wildflowers... the world needs more flowers...

ShirleyFT

12-16-2003, 02:39 PM

Dear Vatican:

I wish you all the luck in the world with your continued persecution of Jews

?

Cobra

12-16-2003, 02:49 PM

Now 2 thing's. Prison for life or the electric chair. Whit one is the best!. Die ASS HOLE. Now it is TIME to pay!. :evil:

DeadMeatGF

12-16-2003, 02:53 PM

At least France and Russia who had implicit interests in Iraq, never had the gaul to come out and say that they empathized with Saddam.

Is that a typo or one hell of a good pun?

freshie

12-16-2003, 02:57 PM

?

a reference to the the vatican's active participation in the Spanish Inquisition and it's passive complicity in the halocaust. A cheap shot, yes. My original post is full of them.

Give it a few hundred years and they'll be at it again.

-=JUDGE=-

12-16-2003, 03:07 PM

The two things I have on my mind are:

1. We helped saddam to power.

2. We removed saddam from power.

So I guess we have fixed a problem that we helped to create. I am glad that he is not in power there anymore. I can only hope that things will get better over in that region and they can stop hating us and each other. Maybe one day.

We should let other countries (even France) help in the rebuilding process. Why? because it will take some of the focus and burden off of us.

As for saddam, he should not be killed, they should sentence him to life so that he is not a martyr.

teppic

12-16-2003, 03:12 PM

have to say, i firmly believe that the death penalty is wrong.

but i also believe that the world does need more wild flowers.

and caek

freshie

12-16-2003, 03:37 PM

and caek

Don't even get me started on the vaticans role of the systematic extermination of pie.

teppic

12-16-2003, 03:54 PM

Don't even get me started on the vaticans role of the systematic extermination of pie.

:eek:

[S]uper[D]ank

12-16-2003, 03:54 PM

One time... in band camp!...

DeadMeatGF

12-17-2003, 03:20 AM

have to say, i firmly believe that the death penalty is wrong.

but i also believe that the world does need more wild flowers.

and caek

The death penalty's OK for certain crimes - I mean shoplifting isn't a capital offence - and it's also good for wild flowers. Buried corpses make good fertiliser, you know.

Pie>Cake

HortonsWho

12-17-2003, 07:17 AM

Don't even get me started on the vaticans role of the systematic extermination of pie.

Absolutely!!! I mean-- what was Vatican 2 all about??? After VC2- sales of Pumpkin, Blueberry and Cherry Pie went down 43% world-wide. :sour:

Why- if Pope Urban II hadn't ceased his reign in 1099, flaky crusts might have disappeared forever.

Cheesecake>Apple Pie>Angel Food

Zinia

12-17-2003, 07:18 AM

Hehe

ShirleyFT

12-17-2003, 08:20 AM

It's amazing how people here who will jump at the slightest use of racial epithet have no problem attacking Catholics. I guess it's OK considering many others in this country share those feelings.

http://www.boundless.org/2002_2003/features/a0000772.html

Freshie mentions the Spanish inquisition (did he watch a Mel Brooks movie?), but he might have used this article to better help his argument:

http://www.chretiens-et-juifs.org/article.php?voir%5B%5D=694&voir%5B%5D=4330

Some more related reading on the problems between religions:

http://www.jewishsf.com/bk990521/usattack.shtml

An earlier choice of the Pope was to avoid war with Iraq:

http://www.jknirp.com/goodst9.htm

And here's an interesting article about judicial choices:

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/cox/031111

And just one mo' time:

The UP Forums are NOT a place to disparage or discriminate against anyone's age, race, religion or sexual preference.

http://www.unrealplayground.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4001

Have a nice day. :)

DeadMeatGF

12-17-2003, 08:37 AM

I have a sexual preference ... I prefer more to less :)
I still like pie, though!

freshie

12-17-2003, 08:44 AM

It's amazing how people here who will jump at the slightest use of racial epithet have no problem attacking Catholics. I guess it's OK considering many others in this country share those feelings.

Freshie mentions the Spanish inquisition (did he watch a Mel Brooks movie?), but he might have used this article to better help his argument:

I know you've shown unwillingness or inability in the past to seperate between the criticism of hierarchy from a blatant attack of the representative. But take it from me.. you can distinguish between the Vatican as organization and catholicism the religion. From US Foreign Policy from the individual

Take the leap of faith and realize there is a difference from saying "The Vatican is complicit in the Holocaust" from saying "Catholics eat new born Muslim babies".

But please, don't let logic stop you from constructing the freshmaker straw-man. I won't contribute further.

Kingster

12-17-2003, 08:52 AM

It's amazing how people here who will jump at the slightest use of racial epithet have no problem attacking Catholics. I guess it's OK considering many others in this country share those feelings.That may be due to the history of the Catholic church using its power unethically or imorally in the eyes of the majority. It's the old case of the Moral Majority truly being the minority - since their morals are so out of whack.

They led the fight for prohibition...
They don't approve of the use of condoms... (Did any of the priests that sexually abused children use condoms??)
ad infinitum.

But I digress... And will get flamed for saying what I've said. I'm not picking on Catholicism... It wass just brough up. Judaism, Bhuddism, Islamism, Hinduism, etc., all have their inherent problems. Except mine. Atheism. What you believe is up to you. That's the beauty of this country - we can all choose (for whatever reason) to believe in what we want... And I believe I'll have another beer. :beer: :D

I'm not a racist, religious fanatic, etc... I hate everyone equally.
.
.
.
Now... DIE!!!! (and meet your god, goddess, or gods) :evil:

DeadMeatGF

12-17-2003, 08:55 AM

Now... DIE!!!! (and meet your god, goddess, or gods) :evil:

or cake, obviously!

ShirleyFT

12-17-2003, 08:56 AM

Gee, I almost feel a bit guilty as I try to stop you from having such a merry time of attacking the Catholics. Perhaps you can find something else in your life to fill the void. Maybe, you can go see the new LOTR movie, or read a book or play a game of UT. Sorry to spoil such good times as these.

teppic

12-17-2003, 09:03 AM

ok, bringing in the caek obviously was too subtle

SloththeShovel

12-17-2003, 09:09 AM

ok, bringing in the caek obviously was too subtle

;)

1_LoSt_TaLiBaN

12-17-2003, 11:24 AM

CJHobbes

12-17-2003, 11:54 AM

The world needs..................................................................

more................................................................................................ ...

pie, caek, flowers, bunnies, fluffy clouds, and penguins.

That is all.

Oh, and reading comprehension skills along with logic and common sense. Yes, yes.......need more of that.......................

Ok now that is all. :weird:

ShirleyFT

12-17-2003, 12:00 PM

oooooooh oooooooooh oooooooh oooooooh religion discussions, I understand destroying the reputation, or validity of any Liberal because of their beliefs and Ideals(not anything they've done in particular, just things they want to see done), hell democrats are borderline baathists in my books and should be ostersized, but dont you dare pick on the catholics for things they've done in the past present and or future. No no we can't pick on them for their beliefs and actions that just wouldn't be right. :weird:

it's ok to attack a group as long as you're attacking their beliefs/values under the pretense of politics not religion because that's what makes the difference. The label on the bottle ;)

TaLi - reformed baptist*

*In no way are the views expresses by me the views of any other religion or political stance they are my own and were developed from the observations and study of idiots in their natural environment.

And now I guess I should get into a little name calling thing with you now, right? No thanks.

The Democrats have embarrassed themselves since the capture of Saddam. If you look back over the thread you'll see my posts were a reaction to talk of a Bush conspiracy and then later to attacks on the Catholics. Go out to Democrats.com and read the nonsense on that site. Of course, you probably agree with those ridiculous claims.

Attack away at religion. Enjoy and be proud.

Kingster

12-17-2003, 12:05 PM

Shirley - I think you missed my point entirely. I'm not calling you anything. I pointed out that all religions have faults.

Please stop taking stuff so personally man. It doesn't serve any purpose... Except to piss you off.

I think everyone should read my Cristmas wish...

1_LoSt_TaLiBaN

12-17-2003, 12:58 PM

omg..... yeah it's funny how everyone else should be discriminate in what they say..... once again as with your political arguments, this religious one you've developed has been clouded and you're not reading what is actually being said but perusing it and taking it to mean what ever the hell it is you think will demonize the ones saying it, oooooooooh not religion but attack their politics thats fine.....

incase you didnt catch onto the underlying message in my previous post I hope to God, Buddah, Allah, Mother Mary, or Ganesha you will after this one.

My post was not meant to fan the flames of someone's off handed stab at the Vatican. My post was generated to point out a particular fallacy in the whole "offended by people attacking a religious group" while blatantly attacking a political group is deemed perfectly fine in which none should take offense. Religion is a set of rules devised to govern and instruct the way in which a man or woman conduct themselves throughout their lives with the promise of a cookie or blissful eternity at its completion. Politics in almost the exact same way is a set of beliefs devised to mold the structure in which any ruling party governs and instructs a man or woman throughout their lives. So when it boils down to it Both Political Views and Religious views are basically one in the same. Religious views are carried over into one political views and often times people revise their religious views to more meet the requirements of their political ones. That being said Core beliefs are core beliefs, just as bottled water is bottled water, now whether you slap a different label on them is up to you.

</participation in this thread>

C.H.U.D.

12-17-2003, 06:23 PM

Ghost_of_War

12-17-2003, 07:42 PM

I'm not picking on Catholicism...
Yes you are. You and I both know that you wouldn't tolerate someone saying equally nasty things about a miniority religion. To give you an example, I specifically remember you banning a guy just because his nick was 'DirtyLilMuslim'. GG.

BTW: It's spelled Christmas you dirty lil heathen. :p

a reference to the the vatican's active participation in the Spanish Inquisition and it's passive complicity in the halocaust. A cheap shot, yes. My original post is full of them.
Since when is the opinion of a Cardinal represent the voice of all Catholics as a whole? Statements like yours could be deemed as personal attacks by a lot of people here. Would you have dared to say something that outrageous and inflammitory about Muslims or Jews? No, because slamming Muslims or Jews isn't acceptable because it's not considered to be politically correct. The hypocrisy never stops.

We should let other countries (even France) help in the rebuilding process. Why? because it will take some of the focus and burden off of us.

I agree with all of your post except for the part that I quoted. Here's why.
We funded the military machine that overthrew Saddam. Our friends and families are the ones who put their lives on the line to accomplish this. Let's not forget that the entire time, France and Russia have gone out of their way to make this endeavor cost us as much money and lives as possible. Now that it's over, we (the taxpayers) are funding the rebuilding of Iraq. Why in the hell should we give our hard earned tax dollars to them after all of that bull5hit? Either our allies companies or our own companies should get all the rebuilding contracts and to hell with those who want to skate in and reap the benifit of our labors... especially after being part of the problem to begin with.

"The French, you might as well gas up the dinghy and go fishing with Fredo because you are dead to me. I would call the French scum bags, but that, of course, would be a disservice to bags filled with scum."
- Dennis Miller. (The Raw Feed)